
{"id":36920,"date":"2018-01-18T06:00:14","date_gmt":"2018-01-18T14:00:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/blog\/?p=36920"},"modified":"2018-01-19T07:15:24","modified_gmt":"2018-01-19T15:15:24","slug":"let-me-tell-you-the-story-i-heard-you-tell-fairy-tales-in-therapy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/blog\/let-me-tell-you-the-story-i-heard-you-tell-fairy-tales-in-therapy-0118184","title":{"rendered":"Let Me Tell You the Story I Heard You Tell: Fairy Tales in Therapy"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-37012\" src=\"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/blog\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/magical-path-autumn-woods-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"Path in autumn woods is illuminated with mysterious golden light\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" title=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/blog\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/magical-path-autumn-woods-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/blog\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/magical-path-autumn-woods.jpg 724w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/>In <a href=\"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/learn-about-therapy\/modes\/individual-therapy\">psychotherapy<\/a>, it can be useful to work from a model. It gives both participants\u2014person in therapy and therapist\u2014a common language and system of references. Naturally, different people are interested in different things. One of my colleagues is very taken with baseball, and derives complex and responsive imagery from that game. Several others get great results making use of popular movies and songs, and folks who work from a religious orientation find that scriptural texts can be applied in profound ways to the material they sit with. For me, mythology and fairy tales frequently provide new ways to think about things.<\/p>\n<p>Because I\u2019m drawn to fairy tales, I tend to notice when I hear one being told by the person I\u2019m sitting with. If it\u2019s one I already know, Cinderella or All-Kinds-of-Fur or the Golden Goose, I\u2019ll point this out. But often it\u2019s one I\u2019d never heard. When that happens, I use a combination of summarization, amplification, and reflection to tell them the tale I\u2019ve just heard them tell.<\/p>\n<div class=\"content-fatwidget align-right\">\n\t<h2><a href=\"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/find-therapist.html\" target=\"_blank\">Find a Therapist<\/a><\/h2>\n\t<form action=\"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/search-redirect.html\" method=\"get\">\n\n\t\t\t<input required name=\"search[zipcode]\" placeholder=\"Enter ZIP or City\" class=\"inline-input\" type=\"text\" \/>\n\n\n\t\t\t<input type=\"submit\" name=\"TOS agreement\" value=\" \" class=\"inline-btn\" title=\"Search\" onclick=\"ga('send', 'event', 'FAT Widget', 'Submit Search', 'Sidebar', {nonInteraction: true});\" \/>\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/advanced-search.html\" title=\"Advanced Search\" onclick=\"ga('send', 'event', 'FAT Widget', 'Advanced Search', 'Sidebar', {nonInteraction: true});\" >Advanced Search<\/a>\n\t<\/form>\n<\/div>\n<p>These fairy tales or segments of tales are artifacts of this particular therapist\u2019s response to a particular person\u2019s material. They\u2019re subjective. For this reason, I want to be mindful that I\u2019m not telling someone <em>my<\/em> fairy tale, but that, in fact, it\u2019s theirs. My intention is to always follow up such a telling with questions. Does this feel right to you? Does it seem useful to our work toward your goals? Does it click? And, of course, not everyone likes fairy tales; not everyone has to. As always in therapy, when something doesn\u2019t work we set it aside, and when it does we go with it.<\/p>\n<p>In the discussion that follows, names have been changed and personal identifiers have been screened out in order to protect confidentiality.<\/p>\n<h2>The Story of Myra<\/h2>\n<p>Many of the people I work with want to change their relationship to alcohol or drugs, or to various behaviors that were originally rewarding but have since become problematic or compulsive. Myra is in her mid-40s, married and with a steady-if-unsatisfying job. She struggles with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/learn-about-therapy\/issues\/drug-and-substance-abuse\">alcohol and substance use<\/a>, with initiating numerous <a href=\"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/learn-about-therapy\/issues\/infidelity\">affairs<\/a>, and with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/learn-about-therapy\/issues\/compulsive-shopping\">impulsive online purchases and debt<\/a>. She says these behaviors result in significant levels of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/learn-about-therapy\/issues\/anxiety\">anxiety<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/learn-about-therapy\/issues\/shame\">shame<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/learn-about-therapy\/issues\/guilt\">guilt<\/a>. For the first many sessions, we sit with the story of what she\u2019s doing, how she doesn\u2019t like it, and how difficult it is to do more than temporarily interrupt it before starting it up again. One afternoon, her material elicited the following fairy tale.<\/p>\n<p><em>A woman is walking down the road with disappointment. Emptiness follows at a distance. The woman says to disappointment, \u201cI need something. Maybe I\u2019ll start a new affair.\u201d \u201cAnother one?\u201d disappointment says with a deep sigh. This isn\u2019t very encouraging. \u201cWell, maybe I\u2019ll stop and have a few drinks,\u201d she suggests. \u201cAnd after that get some cocaine.\u201d \u201cGreat,\u201d says disappointment. \u201cAnother weekend down the drain.\u201d \u201cWell, then maybe I\u2019ll go online and do some shopping,\u201d the woman offers. \u201cI\u2019m sure to find something nice.\u201d \u201cYou\u2019ll find crap,\u201d disappointment says flatly. \u201cYou always do.\u201d <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>They come to a crossroads. The woman, not sure which road to take, stops. This gives emptiness a chance to catch up with them. By this time, the woman is tired of talking to disappointment. She turns to emptiness and says, \u201cWhat do <\/em>you<em> think I need?\u201d \u201cI don\u2019t know,\u201d says emptiness. \u201cBut if you can stand my company, I\u2019ll help you look.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"popout-quote-left\" style=\"font-weight: bold; width: 30%; float: left;\">My intention is to always follow up such a telling with questions. Does this feel right to you? Does it seem useful to our work toward your goals? Does it click?<\/span><\/p>\n<p>This moves us into a new stage of our work. Myra focuses on her experience of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/learn-about-therapy\/issues\/emptiness\">emptiness<\/a> and the ways in which she had tried to fill it without having to be aware of it. It\u2019s her repeated disappointment that drew her attention to this and originally brought her to therapy. We consider that if she can stay with the unpleasant feeling of emptiness and not do anything about it, she can increase her tolerance of it. Myra is willing\u2014and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/blog\/psychpedia\/courage\">courageous<\/a>. She stays with the uncomfortable feelings. We develop a 10-minute <a href=\"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/blog\/psychpedia\/meditation\">meditation<\/a> practice for her, to make her sitting a little more structured. As her tolerance of it increases, she reports that emptiness acts less like a driver for her behaviors. They seem to become less essential, and she doesn\u2019t turn to them so readily. She begins to count days and then months of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/blog\/psychpedia\/sobriety\">sobriety<\/a>. We note she is not developing new avenues of activity, such as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/learn-about-therapy\/issues\/gambling-addiction\">gambling<\/a> or workaholism. The empty feeling proves to be survivable.<\/p>\n<p>Later on, we notice that because she can tolerate the presence of emptiness, it acts as a support when she begins to identify and find ways to act more in accordance with her <a href=\"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/learn-about-therapy\/issues\/values-clarification\">values<\/a>. She begins to consider a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/learn-about-therapy\/issues\/career-counseling\">career change<\/a>, recommits to the relationship with her husband, and becomes more available to her family. Later still in our work together, we find that emptiness is not just helpful but essential in helping her explore her authentic <a href=\"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/learn-about-therapy\/issues\/spirituality\">spiritual life<\/a>, which had gotten lost due to an early disillusionment with organized <a href=\"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/learn-about-therapy\/issues\/religious-issues\">religion<\/a>. From being an unconscious driver for problematic behaviors, emptiness became something like a sacred space in her life, in which she could consider and then meet with her highest values. It\u2019s not that her life has become perfect. But what was originally a source of suffering, from which she fled, has become a support in making a more meaningful life.<\/p>\n<h2>The Story of Bill and Jay<\/h2>\n<p>Bill and Jay come for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/learn-about-therapy\/modes\/marriage-counseling\">couples counseling<\/a>. They\u2019re both in their early 30s, employed in different sectors of the film industry. Jay describes Bill as cold, distant, and having a cruel sense of humor that he uses when Jay wants to get close. Bill notes that Jay is needy and uses emotional displays to get what he wants. I notice that Bill is adept at using figures of speech and sliding definitions (giving the same term a different meaning at the beginning of a conversation from the one it is given at the end) to evade threat. He describes being parentified along with his two brothers by their mother following her <a href=\"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/learn-about-therapy\/issues\/divorce\">divorce<\/a> from their father. He tells me how challenging it was to take care of his mother as a boy and adolescent, that both approaching her for support and not approaching her for support were negatively reinforced, that trying to take care of her and failing and not trying to take care of her were both punished by outbursts of rage. Part of my response to Bill\u2019s narrative is the opening segment of what appears to be a longer fairy tale.<\/p>\n<p><em>Three brothers once lived in a cottage in the forest. One day the oldest brother said, \u201cI\u2019m going out into the world to seek my fortune.\u201d He set out along the path. He hadn\u2019t gotten far when he found the way barred by an old woman, who said to him, \u201cShall I help you or shall I not help you?\u201d \u201cI don\u2019t need anyone\u2019s help. Don\u2019t help me,\u201d said the oldest brother. \u201cThen you\u2019ll get no help from me,\u201d cried the old woman, and she knocked him off the path and into the forest.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>The next day, the second brother also set off to seek his fortune. He hadn\u2019t gone far when he found the way barred by an old woman, who said to him, \u201cShall I help you or shall I not help you?\u201d \u201cI need all the help I can get. Please help me,\u201d he said. \u201cHere\u2019s your help then,\u201d cried the old woman, and she knocked him off the path and into the forest.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Finally, the third brother set out. He wondered why he had heard nothing from his brothers. He hadn\u2019t gone far when he found the way barred by an old woman, who said to him, \u201cShall I help you or shall I not help you?\u201d \u201cWhat do you think?\u201d countered the third brother. \u201cIt could go either way,\u201d said the old woman. \u201cWell then, there you go,\u201d said the third brother. The old woman stepped aside, and he was able to continue on his way.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>With Bill\u2019s cautious approval of this tale (\u201cYeah, sounds a little familiar\u201d), we\u2019re able to use it to identify and articulate his intense ambivalence about relationships. He feels the need for closeness, but no approach to it seems safe. He\u2019s learned to use irony and wordplay to keep his sense of being at risk at manageable levels. These skills allowed him to maintain a relatively stable relationship with his mother, unlike his brothers, who in his words \u201cwere always getting eaten alive or eighty-sixed.\u201d But the same set of skills doesn\u2019t seem as useful in his relationship with Jay. Gradually, he becomes better able to take in feedback from Jay about the impact of these once highly useful skills on their relationship. He also begins to develop the ability to set them down when he chooses because he has become more conscious of what and why they are.<\/p>\n<p>I believe in therapy. Yet sometimes, the concepts and the language seem best able to address us at our higher levels of functioning. And that\u2019s not always where the issues that trouble us are found. Fairy tales, perhaps because we first heard them at earlier stages of our development, can engage us at those deeper levels, where we listen to the story in order to find out what happens next.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Whether it\u2019s baseball, pop culture, or fairy tales, many therapists find it useful to work from a conceptual model that serves as a common language in therapy.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2913,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_uf_show_specific_survey":0,"_uf_disable_surveys":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[542,628],"tags":[1133,644],"class_list":["post-36920","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-featured-articles","category-general","tag-fairy-tales","tag-therapeutic-relationship"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/36920","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2913"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=36920"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/36920\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=36920"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=36920"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.goodtherapy.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=36920"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}