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	<title>Comments on: Important Elements of Premarital Counseling</title>
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		<title>By: Augusta</title>
		<link>http://www.goodtherapy.org/custom/blog/2008/07/28/premarital-counseling/#comment-10593</link>
		<dc:creator>Augusta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be all for that Lisa! I meet many couples at various times, and once you become friendly with them realize that everyone can use a little sharpening of the skills. This might work for couples who have been married 1 year, 5 years, or even 25 years! I wonder how much the actual divorce rate in the country may go down if something like this were implemented and made readily available to all interested couples?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be all for that Lisa! I meet many couples at various times, and once you become friendly with them realize that everyone can use a little sharpening of the skills. This might work for couples who have been married 1 year, 5 years, or even 25 years! I wonder how much the actual divorce rate in the country may go down if something like this were implemented and made readily available to all interested couples?</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Brookes Kift, MFT</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Brookes Kift, MFT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This marriage counseling "refresher course" has got my wheels turning.  I'm wondering if we as therapists offered this as a service - essentially providing education around these premarital counseling ideas  - that some couples in long term marriages might really find this beneficial.  Hmmm...my wheels are turning.  It makes very good sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This marriage counseling &#8220;refresher course&#8221; has got my wheels turning.  I&#8217;m wondering if we as therapists offered this as a service - essentially providing education around these premarital counseling ideas  - that some couples in long term marriages might really find this beneficial.  Hmmm&#8230;my wheels are turning.  It makes very good sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I need this refresher course! :-)</description>
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		<title>By: Maggie</title>
		<link>http://www.goodtherapy.org/custom/blog/2008/07/28/premarital-counseling/#comment-10431</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the idea of a refresher course! I too have been in a situation where you feel like the marriage is in a funk- you have not stopped loving one another you have   just forgotten all of the good things that have come from the relationship. A course or line of treatment like this would serve many couples well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the idea of a refresher course! I too have been in a situation where you feel like the marriage is in a funk- you have not stopped loving one another you have   just forgotten all of the good things that have come from the relationship. A course or line of treatment like this would serve many couples well.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Brookes Kift, MFT</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Brookes Kift, MFT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 22:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great discussion going on here.  

I completely agree with Jesse's comment about how the elements I outlined could be useful as a refresher to couples who have been married for many years.  So many married couples could benefit from this type of reminder - to avoid being in front of a therapist teetering on the brink of divorce years later.

Chester makes a great point about anger being a healthy emotion that only can benefit from being expressed in ways that aren't hurtful.  We all can benefit from remembering that at one time or another!  Anger will inevitably come up in a marriage - it's what the couple does with it that can make the difference.

The religious based counseling vs therapy based counseling discussion is an interesting topic as well.  Each has something unique to offer - either through the framework of religion or relationship dynamics.  Then there are those who have training/experience in both.

At the end of the day the couple will make the decision together as to which resonates with them more.  Each lens will certainly be different.

Jeannette - you're absolutely right in that many people, unfortunately, have unhelpful modeling by their parents.  I believe they can relearn a better way through each other.  Helping them to be aware of what they learned, normalizing their experience of not knowing any different then educating them how to do things differently - and practice with their partner.  I find fostering empathy for one another's experience as children with poor models is helpful as well.  Like Hendrix (imago therapy) has written and spoken so much about - we can heal through our partners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great discussion going on here.  </p>
<p>I completely agree with Jesse&#8217;s comment about how the elements I outlined could be useful as a refresher to couples who have been married for many years.  So many married couples could benefit from this type of reminder - to avoid being in front of a therapist teetering on the brink of divorce years later.</p>
<p>Chester makes a great point about anger being a healthy emotion that only can benefit from being expressed in ways that aren&#8217;t hurtful.  We all can benefit from remembering that at one time or another!  Anger will inevitably come up in a marriage - it&#8217;s what the couple does with it that can make the difference.</p>
<p>The religious based counseling vs therapy based counseling discussion is an interesting topic as well.  Each has something unique to offer - either through the framework of religion or relationship dynamics.  Then there are those who have training/experience in both.</p>
<p>At the end of the day the couple will make the decision together as to which resonates with them more.  Each lens will certainly be different.</p>
<p>Jeannette - you&#8217;re absolutely right in that many people, unfortunately, have unhelpful modeling by their parents.  I believe they can relearn a better way through each other.  Helping them to be aware of what they learned, normalizing their experience of not knowing any different then educating them how to do things differently - and practice with their partner.  I find fostering empathy for one another&#8217;s experience as children with poor models is helpful as well.  Like Hendrix (imago therapy) has written and spoken so much about - we can heal through our partners.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeanette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeanette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But many people have not had good role models at all as far as seeing what a healthy marriage should look like. How do we teach these people what good relationships are all about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But many people have not had good role models at all as far as seeing what a healthy marriage should look like. How do we teach these people what good relationships are all about?</p>
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		<title>By: Libby M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Libby M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that recognizing the expectations that each partner has regarding what the relationship is going to be about is key to a successful marriage! I have seen a good number of clients in the past who simply go into marriage with very unrealistic expectations about their role, that of the spouse, and marriage in general. These unrealistic expectations will typically only set one up for disappointment when one or the other does not live up to what you dreamed it would be. That is what can be so great about premarital counseling. It can help a couple get square in their beliefs and expectations of what their marriage will be like and help avoid later misunderstandings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that recognizing the expectations that each partner has regarding what the relationship is going to be about is key to a successful marriage! I have seen a good number of clients in the past who simply go into marriage with very unrealistic expectations about their role, that of the spouse, and marriage in general. These unrealistic expectations will typically only set one up for disappointment when one or the other does not live up to what you dreamed it would be. That is what can be so great about premarital counseling. It can help a couple get square in their beliefs and expectations of what their marriage will be like and help avoid later misunderstandings.</p>
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		<title>By: Margo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it is better to work with a trained counselor rather than someone who is simply viewing marriage as a rite within the church. One with a little broader experience may better help couples realize some of the more real world situations that couples often face and may be able to provide them with better alternatives for helping in these situations. I do think that church counseling certainly has its time and its place but it does not work for everyone. Therapy is not a cookie cutter solution. It has to meet the needs of each individual and that can be tough who has never had extensive training in the field of therapy or counseling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it is better to work with a trained counselor rather than someone who is simply viewing marriage as a rite within the church. One with a little broader experience may better help couples realize some of the more real world situations that couples often face and may be able to provide them with better alternatives for helping in these situations. I do think that church counseling certainly has its time and its place but it does not work for everyone. Therapy is not a cookie cutter solution. It has to meet the needs of each individual and that can be tough who has never had extensive training in the field of therapy or counseling.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 23:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our minister required premarital counseling before he would marry my husband and me. Unfortunately although we are still married my husband has still had several affairs and I am not sure that it did anything to strengthen our relationship beforehand. It felt largely symbolic, like we had to do it in order for the minister to marry us. maybe had we done it with someone outside of the church we may have had better success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our minister required premarital counseling before he would marry my husband and me. Unfortunately although we are still married my husband has still had several affairs and I am not sure that it did anything to strengthen our relationship beforehand. It felt largely symbolic, like we had to do it in order for the minister to marry us. maybe had we done it with someone outside of the church we may have had better success.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adelaide,
Your entry was very sad to me. I wonder if you had your mind made up before you tried it? Were you in any way cynical to the process before you even started seeing clients? By using the term "dabbled" I am left with the feeling that maybe you weren't really committed to the process. At any rate, I certainly hope you have had more success and happiness with other areas of therapy. All the best to you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adelaide,<br />
Your entry was very sad to me. I wonder if you had your mind made up before you tried it? Were you in any way cynical to the process before you even started seeing clients? By using the term &#8220;dabbled&#8221; I am left with the feeling that maybe you weren&#8217;t really committed to the process. At any rate, I certainly hope you have had more success and happiness with other areas of therapy. All the best to you!</p>
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		<title>By: Adelaide</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adelaide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dabbled in premarital counseling for a time and found it largely a waste of time...</description>
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		<title>By: Abe</title>
		<link>http://www.goodtherapy.org/custom/blog/2008/07/28/premarital-counseling/#comment-10263</link>
		<dc:creator>Abe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Premarital counseling is so tragically overlooked by so many people. I have always been an advocate of the state requiring at least four premarital counseling sessions with a licensed counselor before granting a marriage license. I would love to see a state give this a try-I wonder what would happen to the divorce rate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Premarital counseling is so tragically overlooked by so many people. I have always been an advocate of the state requiring at least four premarital counseling sessions with a licensed counselor before granting a marriage license. I would love to see a state give this a try-I wonder what would happen to the divorce rate.</p>
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		<title>By: Chester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a premarital counselor myself, I always find it helpful to do a good examination of anger. So many young people come to me and feel that anger is something to be hidden and ashamed of. Once the stigma of anger is taken away, we can look at good, constructive ways to deal with anger that will inevitably enter a married relationship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a premarital counselor myself, I always find it helpful to do a good examination of anger. So many young people come to me and feel that anger is something to be hidden and ashamed of. Once the stigma of anger is taken away, we can look at good, constructive ways to deal with anger that will inevitably enter a married relationship.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
		<link>http://www.goodtherapy.org/custom/blog/2008/07/28/premarital-counseling/#comment-10251</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I read this list, I found myself thinking "check, check, check..." in regards to each of the six items listed. Then, I realized that I could check these items off in my premarital, engaged days, but could I check them off now? Even though I've been married for twenty years, this list is a great refresher. These are things I need to pay attention to. Neglecting them could mean that the next 20 years won't be as enjoyable or meaningful...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I read this list, I found myself thinking &#8220;check, check, check&#8230;&#8221; in regards to each of the six items listed. Then, I realized that I could check these items off in my premarital, engaged days, but could I check them off now? Even though I&#8217;ve been married for twenty years, this list is a great refresher. These are things I need to pay attention to. Neglecting them could mean that the next 20 years won&#8217;t be as enjoyable or meaningful&#8230;</p>
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