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	<title>Comments on: The Art of Soul Transformation: Self-Psychology and Creativity</title>
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		<title>By: Wendy Perkins</title>
		<link>http://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/the-art-of-soul-transformation-self-psychology-and-creativity/#comment-47329</link>
		<dc:creator>Wendy Perkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 11:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found the article interesting and Gary&#039;s reply to original article, also very interesting.  I&#039;m coming from a different perspective in that I was abandoned as a 4-1/2 year old child and my caregivers were black crows (nuns) with a sadistic sense of power. I&#039;m now 67 years old and an addiction counsellor, learning from my own years of alcohol addiction trying to cope with growing up in an &quot;unloving&quot; environment. So yes, environment does play an integral part in a child&#039;s mental and emotional journey into adulthood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found the article interesting and Gary&#8217;s reply to original article, also very interesting.  I&#8217;m coming from a different perspective in that I was abandoned as a 4-1/2 year old child and my caregivers were black crows (nuns) with a sadistic sense of power. I&#8217;m now 67 years old and an addiction counsellor, learning from my own years of alcohol addiction trying to cope with growing up in an &#8220;unloving&#8221; environment. So yes, environment does play an integral part in a child&#8217;s mental and emotional journey into adulthood.</p>
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		<title>By: selfhelp</title>
		<link>http://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/the-art-of-soul-transformation-self-psychology-and-creativity/#comment-34646</link>
		<dc:creator>selfhelp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many people who seek selfhelp or healing from a counsellor are totally reliant on that persons skills and training, plus they have to believe in their ability to solve the issues they are experiencing as the &quot;patient&quot;
What many do not realise is that there are other online resourses available, if they just knew where to look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many people who seek selfhelp or healing from a counsellor are totally reliant on that persons skills and training, plus they have to believe in their ability to solve the issues they are experiencing as the &#8220;patient&#8221;<br />
What many do not realise is that there are other online resourses available, if they just knew where to look.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/the-art-of-soul-transformation-self-psychology-and-creativity/#comment-32819</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 17:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is critical to dispute information that is clearly false and claims of “truth” based on non-scientific sources of perception, mainly a person making stuff up.  More precisely, a personal philosophy or religious belief is not the methodological and scientific application of mental health care.  Most importantly, it is in no way a therapy or treatment.  Its opinion and philosophy.  What is said here about “Self Psychology” rings loudly as snake oil.  Let me point out just three examples

The article says :“ Each person is born equally elegant and ready to become a whole human being.”  

Really?  That does not explain the vast diversity in ability, accomplishment and performance in cognitive activities across the lifespan.  One huge example: a person born with autism and one not.  Those two people are not ”equally” born to be “whole”.
The article says:  “A child who feels safe, loved, and good enough develops a healthy sense of self and is able to adapt to others without losing its identity.”  

Really?  How do we reconcile that many proven and long standing scientific observations of human development clearly point to the fact that the sense of security in humans that develop throughout  childhood come FROM the environment and not from an internal sense of security of any kind that a child is born with.  Identity comes FROM the environment and does not evolve from an internal schema or design.  There are no pre-designs.  The environment shapes identity.

The article says: “The child can choose to abandon the caretaker; if it does so, it faces annihilation or non-being because it has no other way of existing except in relationship to others. This choice leads to self-destruction.”  

Really?  It is difficult for a child to abandon its caregiver, physically or emotionally.  The caregiver is the life support system for the person and abandonment of life support is simply not conceivable by children.  The simply know nothing else – how can choose something different or better?  It is difficult to even conceive something better for many children.  Children do not abandon caregivers, they improvise, adapt and eventually overcome.  However, they never really forget anything.  

Lastly, let’s make sure we separate the difference between true, effective mental health care and philosophic musings(&quot;creative&quot; or not) embedded in our own personal interests or religious beliefs.  Doing so is honest, doing less is clearly not - or perhaps even dangerous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is critical to dispute information that is clearly false and claims of “truth” based on non-scientific sources of perception, mainly a person making stuff up.  More precisely, a personal philosophy or religious belief is not the methodological and scientific application of mental health care.  Most importantly, it is in no way a therapy or treatment.  Its opinion and philosophy.  What is said here about “Self Psychology” rings loudly as snake oil.  Let me point out just three examples</p>
<p>The article says :“ Each person is born equally elegant and ready to become a whole human being.”  </p>
<p>Really?  That does not explain the vast diversity in ability, accomplishment and performance in cognitive activities across the lifespan.  One huge example: a person born with autism and one not.  Those two people are not ”equally” born to be “whole”.<br />
The article says:  “A child who feels safe, loved, and good enough develops a healthy sense of self and is able to adapt to others without losing its identity.”  </p>
<p>Really?  How do we reconcile that many proven and long standing scientific observations of human development clearly point to the fact that the sense of security in humans that develop throughout  childhood come FROM the environment and not from an internal sense of security of any kind that a child is born with.  Identity comes FROM the environment and does not evolve from an internal schema or design.  There are no pre-designs.  The environment shapes identity.</p>
<p>The article says: “The child can choose to abandon the caretaker; if it does so, it faces annihilation or non-being because it has no other way of existing except in relationship to others. This choice leads to self-destruction.”  </p>
<p>Really?  It is difficult for a child to abandon its caregiver, physically or emotionally.  The caregiver is the life support system for the person and abandonment of life support is simply not conceivable by children.  The simply know nothing else – how can choose something different or better?  It is difficult to even conceive something better for many children.  Children do not abandon caregivers, they improvise, adapt and eventually overcome.  However, they never really forget anything.  </p>
<p>Lastly, let’s make sure we separate the difference between true, effective mental health care and philosophic musings(&#8220;creative&#8221; or not) embedded in our own personal interests or religious beliefs.  Doing so is honest, doing less is clearly not &#8211; or perhaps even dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: tom jacquet</title>
		<link>http://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/the-art-of-soul-transformation-self-psychology-and-creativity/#comment-26601</link>
		<dc:creator>tom jacquet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are correct- A good counseling can help changes or turn your life around,  Remember that a counsel is not, an enemy or someone who will condemn you nor lecture you to death.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are correct- A good counseling can help changes or turn your life around,  Remember that a counsel is not, an enemy or someone who will condemn you nor lecture you to death.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/the-art-of-soul-transformation-self-psychology-and-creativity/#comment-17289</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! I loved the insight from the student&#039;s reflection. Truly, we are in a process our whole lives and have never &quot;arrived&quot; where everything&#039;s fixed and all ok. It&#039;s in learning to accept ourselves just as God made us and follow the flow of what he&#039;s doing in our lives, will we really change. I struggled a long time with art making, feeling it lacked depth and that I didn&#039;t really know what to express. Yet, whenever I look at life, the material is all around me. I think God has been definately opening my eyes to inspiration everywhere. As a current art therapy student, the road to self awareness has NOT been easy...one of the hardest journey&#039;s I have and am taking, but worth it. To see me, with all my flaws, and not focus on them, but accept myself as an &#039;imperfect&#039; person and know that God accepts me JUST AS I AM....is truly liberating!! Art therapy is such a great tool to express when you just don&#039;t quite have the words to say!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I loved the insight from the student&#8217;s reflection. Truly, we are in a process our whole lives and have never &#8220;arrived&#8221; where everything&#8217;s fixed and all ok. It&#8217;s in learning to accept ourselves just as God made us and follow the flow of what he&#8217;s doing in our lives, will we really change. I struggled a long time with art making, feeling it lacked depth and that I didn&#8217;t really know what to express. Yet, whenever I look at life, the material is all around me. I think God has been definately opening my eyes to inspiration everywhere. As a current art therapy student, the road to self awareness has NOT been easy&#8230;one of the hardest journey&#8217;s I have and am taking, but worth it. To see me, with all my flaws, and not focus on them, but accept myself as an &#8216;imperfect&#8217; person and know that God accepts me JUST AS I AM&#8230;.is truly liberating!! Art therapy is such a great tool to express when you just don&#8217;t quite have the words to say!</p>
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		<title>By: R. Bristow</title>
		<link>http://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/the-art-of-soul-transformation-self-psychology-and-creativity/#comment-14031</link>
		<dc:creator>R. Bristow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good insght into healing the whole person</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good insght into healing the whole person</p>
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		<title>By: Silvia</title>
		<link>http://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/the-art-of-soul-transformation-self-psychology-and-creativity/#comment-9295</link>
		<dc:creator>Silvia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 20:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that it doesn&#039;t work across the board, the stone carving was used as the metaphor for being able to access parts of the self that had to deeply hide.  It is another tool to use with clients who are open to exploring their sense of wholeness with the added dimension of creativity.  And to clarify, it is not that the client can heal her/him self by themselves, it is a mutually affective process which re-enforces that authenticity.  Using creativity is one way of approaching the hidden soul on the slant so it can emerge at its own pace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that it doesn&#8217;t work across the board, the stone carving was used as the metaphor for being able to access parts of the self that had to deeply hide.  It is another tool to use with clients who are open to exploring their sense of wholeness with the added dimension of creativity.  And to clarify, it is not that the client can heal her/him self by themselves, it is a mutually affective process which re-enforces that authenticity.  Using creativity is one way of approaching the hidden soul on the slant so it can emerge at its own pace.</p>
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		<title>By: maddie</title>
		<link>http://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/the-art-of-soul-transformation-self-psychology-and-creativity/#comment-9277</link>
		<dc:creator>maddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 11:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems like there are many in the counsleing field who more and more are relying on more creative methods for helping their patients. This author uses stone carving, while some rely on drawing and even writing. Why has this become so prevalent? I can definitely see how it would be therapeutic for some but I am not sure it would apply across the board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like there are many in the counsleing field who more and more are relying on more creative methods for helping their patients. This author uses stone carving, while some rely on drawing and even writing. Why has this become so prevalent? I can definitely see how it would be therapeutic for some but I am not sure it would apply across the board.</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon</title>
		<link>http://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/the-art-of-soul-transformation-self-psychology-and-creativity/#comment-9249</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 16:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right- it does seem that the major point of counseling is for us all to become more self aware and this does not seem to differ from that goal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right- it does seem that the major point of counseling is for us all to become more self aware and this does not seem to differ from that goal.</p>
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		<title>By: Austin</title>
		<link>http://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/the-art-of-soul-transformation-self-psychology-and-creativity/#comment-9217</link>
		<dc:creator>Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 18:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I am a little confused because I thought that the whole point of doing therapy in the first place was to become more self aware and able to work on fixing your own problems. How is this so different than that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I am a little confused because I thought that the whole point of doing therapy in the first place was to become more self aware and able to work on fixing your own problems. How is this so different than that?</p>
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		<title>By: ashley</title>
		<link>http://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/the-art-of-soul-transformation-self-psychology-and-creativity/#comment-9201</link>
		<dc:creator>ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 12:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you get someone to that point of realizing that all they need to heal is themsleves? It seems like it would be so much more complicated than that! I am not trying to break this into simple parts but as a non therapist I am just wondering how you could take someone who is so broken and help them realize that all they need is a stronger self to put it all back together again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you get someone to that point of realizing that all they need to heal is themsleves? It seems like it would be so much more complicated than that! I am not trying to break this into simple parts but as a non therapist I am just wondering how you could take someone who is so broken and help them realize that all they need is a stronger self to put it all back together again.</p>
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		<title>By: Silvia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silvia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 21:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have added more dimensions to this understanding of self-psychology, situated in jungian and theological understandings of what the soul is, what it&#039;s purpose in becoming might be, and how to get to wholeness.  I am working on another article on those premises.  I agree wholeheartedly in your comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have added more dimensions to this understanding of self-psychology, situated in jungian and theological understandings of what the soul is, what it&#8217;s purpose in becoming might be, and how to get to wholeness.  I am working on another article on those premises.  I agree wholeheartedly in your comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 13:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It can be such a healing process to finally get to know yourself and learn exactly what you need in order to survive. I think that self therapy can be useful for so many in a multitude of different ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It can be such a healing process to finally get to know yourself and learn exactly what you need in order to survive. I think that self therapy can be useful for so many in a multitude of different ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Margo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 19:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it very profound that there are those in the counseling field who truly believe that help and healing come from within the patient and not necessarily from what they as they therapist is spouting off. I find this to be an appropriate tool for learning and growth in all stages of life, to learn from yourslef and the therapist can be your guide, not the end all and be all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it very profound that there are those in the counseling field who truly believe that help and healing come from within the patient and not necessarily from what they as they therapist is spouting off. I find this to be an appropriate tool for learning and growth in all stages of life, to learn from yourslef and the therapist can be your guide, not the end all and be all.</p>
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